new computer trouble

[[NgW]Retribution]

i put everythign together, plug in the power, and turn it on. it makes all the ususal noises, but there is no signal to my monitor, so i switch my video card, still nothing :crying:

[[NgW]Greasy Bacon]

I say defective mobo

[xiohexia]

does it make any beeps at start up? did you try pci and/or mobo video?

[[NgW]Sinister]

Retribution;20530']i put everythign together, plug in the power, and turn it on. it makes all the ususal noises, but there is no signal to my monitor, so i switch my video card, still nothing :crying:

Remember my old problem with No signal on monitor? It was because the mobo and the CPU didn't match. Wouldn't that be the problem?

[[NgW]Retribution]

its an evga card in an evga mobo

[Froth]

You know the drill Retribution. Take it all apart and do it again, at least before you return the MB. Ck the PS connections first of course, and then the CPU second. Check and recheck ALL your connections. Is the little green light on on your MB?

"Did you insert your CPU all the way? Sometimes it requires just a little pressure. Just remember with retail versions of cpus, there is little error for fault. So make sure you give the lever on the cpu housing a pump or two to make sure there a a secure connection. I've seen a ton of people not setting the cpu properly."

What are specs again? Is your PS strong enough or a good enough brand?

[[NgW]Retribution]

got it workings, it wouldnn't support my 3x 2gb sticks right off the get go

[Froth]

Nice! Yeah if you have XP it can only understand 3.6 gigabyes, or so. I had to take out 2 of my 4 gigabytes to get it to run perfect, otherwise I kept getting cabinet errors particularly when loading or saving big files, although my computer worked otherwise.

Congrats! Now we need some specs! Gotta have u and bacon go head to head! Lol!

[[NgW]Retribution]

well... it works... kinda
for some reason it won't boot if i put tmy ddr3 ram in the proper slots for the tri channel :/, my vid card crashes while playing almost every game, and i may have to buy a new activation key for my windows

[xiohexia]

do you have an i7 processor? if not you should probably use ddr2 like your supposed to :/

edit: also...
froth... 32bit can handle 4 gigs of ram total including the video card... 64bit can handle 17.2 billion gigabytes of ram total including video card.

Operating system is almost irrelevant.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778.aspx#physical_me mory_limits_windows_xp

[[NgW]Retribution]

i have an i7, and i have vista ultimat 64 bit
i have every thing i need for it to work, i just dosn't
and my vid card crashes when playing ANY game

[Froth]

Xio..Exactly. Which is why XP can't utilize 4 gbs of system ram correctly, since most video cards are at least 256 mbs nowadays (mines 512 mb). But thanks, I didn't actually know that it was a cap for total system ram. Its funny actually, the rig works fine as long as I don't install any large programs or try to save load anything. The cabinet errors occur when it moves a big chunk of active memory to the system ram and then can't find it when it needs it again within that memory cycle. I spent the first week of my computers life figuring that one out. I'm looking forward to using the other 2 gbs safely with windows 7.


Retribution: Do you mind tossing us the full specs of your new rig? You didn't really tell us in your last thread either. Perhaps one of us knows of an incompatibility with some of the hardware. I'm happy to do some research for you as well to see if I can find anything.

If you have the original Vista disc then I'm pretty sure you can get a new copy for free. It might not be activating because it believes your old rig still exists?

Also, update your graphics drivers, although I'm assuming you already did. If Vista isn't letting you update to SP2 because of the activation thing then this could be another problem.

Oh Joy!

[[NgW]Retribution]

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[Froth]

OK, Well i notice so far memory issues with the CPU..."Well after several motherboard rma's and ram being replaced with many different brands, I finally found the problem. I was putting in three sticks of ddr3 ram and it would only ever recognize 2 gigs of ram. All ram was constantly exchanged and memtested and all worked fine. The problem has to be the stupid memory controller in the processor. It must be damaged somehow. This has to be some sort of error in Intel's part because I have never overclocked anything and all memory voltages are on the stock settings that the ram told me to set it at."

Several people mention that The MB northbridge runs very hot. Several people mention having problems with the MB, particularly the FF. The reviews indicate a fairly high (13%) percentage of poor reviews, most of whom had to RMA the board. A number of higher reviews had to RMa as well. Several people were unimpressed by the generic onboard audio and net chips, with one of them saying "I would rather have a P6T6 or Rampage II. They do everything this board does for cheaper and outrun it in every test I have seen."

Also The GPU seems like a bit of a lemon from the reviews, aside from the price this is why I never buy brand new video cards, I let other people "test" them for me. The most useful info I've garnered from this card so far is from this reviewer..
"The pre-set "superclocked" speed of 675 for the core produces artifacts and eventually CRASHES (yes, driver crashes reported by event viewer) in ATITool (yes, it work for NVIDIA cards) and 3DMark 05. It was so bad it even hosed the textures to load in my current MMO (LotRO) when I unlocked the maximum FPS, as it was fine when locked to monitor refresh rate. After testing, I discovered that the artifacting and crashes occurred when the GPU core was overclocked to 667MHz or higher. The stock speed is 648 for the regular version of this card, which this superclocked version's pre-set "stock" speed is 675. Even at 655, it's notice an occasional hiccup, so I dialed mine back to 650 and it seems very stable. The memory overclock here doesn't seem to cause artifacts and can easily go 1200MHz (2400) and above, though stock is 1161 (2322) and the "superclocked" speed is 1188 (2376). You could probably double the core speed at 1300+, but I don't want to risk a hang and lose typing my review. :-)"

So perhaps some adjusting to a lower speed would help?

Another guy also said... " I have had this card a month, after upgrading from a 9800 G*T*X* S*C* and seeing no noticeable performance gains I was pretty bummed about it and it showed in my first review. The reason I am writing a second review is because the card wont run any games now, the display driver crashes just after start up on any game, DIRT, GRID, TF2, WOW, haven't seen it crash on CS 1.6 yet thanks!"

He RMA'd that card.

[[NgW]larz]

I have 2x 2GB sticks of DDR2 1066 in the deathstar. My 8800 gtx has 768mb of GDDR5 on the card itself. My vista 32bit can only see a maximum of 4096Mb of ram. The video card memory takes priority, and whatever else the OS can see is my DDR2.

This means I have 800Mb of DDR2 in my comp I can't use.:crying:

It sucks that XP 32bit can only see 3.6Gb.

This is why I'm either eventually getting 64bit vista home premium or 64bit Windows7. Tonight when I get home, I am going to start downloading windows 7 64bit. I'm going to dual boot for awhile and see how it works.

[xiohexia]

larz;20601']I have 2x 2GB sticks of DDR2 1066 in the deathstar. My 8800 gtx has 768mb of GDDR5 on the card itself. My vista 32bit can only see a maximum of 4096Mb of ram. The video card memory takes priority, and whatever else the OS can see is my DDR2.

This means I have 800Mb of DDR2 in my comp I can't use.:crying:

It sucks that XP 32bit can only see 3.6Gb.

This is why I'm either eventually getting 64bit vista home premium or 64bit Windows7. Tonight when I get home, I am going to start downloading windows 7 64bit. I'm going to dual boot for awhile and see how it works.


no no no...
Its whether you have 32 or 64 bit that matters. NOT THE OS.
XP 32 bit - 4gigs
XP 64 bit - 128gigs
Vista 32 bit - 4gigs
Vista 64 bit - 128gigs.
See? dont believe me?
ask microsoft:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778.aspx#physical_me mory_limits_windows_xp

Froth: You cant say that "XP cant handle more then 4gigs of ram..." because 64 bit xp can handle 128 gigs of ram... infact vista is the same exact way... thats because it has nothing to do with the os name... its whether or not its 32bit(x86) or 64bit(x64).

[Froth]

Yes I understand that, but seriously, how many XP people actually have 64 bit XP? And while were on this topic I have noticed some XP users with DX10.. Whats the Low down on that? Do you have to have this 64 bit XP to make it run? From what I have heard I can't use dx10 on my 32 bit XP. I'm assuming any vista can run dx10.

[xiohexia]

Yes I understand that, but seriously, how many XP people actually have 64 bit XP? And while were on this topic I have noticed some XP users with DX10.. Whats the Low down on that? Do you have to have this 64 bit XP to make it run? From what I have heard I can't use dx10 on my 32 bit XP. I'm assuming any vista can run dx10.

lol you can do all the same stuff you can do with vista on xp... seriously... dx10 has been cracked and works on xp... i used to have it... :D... also... most of those windows vista only games... have been cracked to work on xp :D lolz :D

Also the reason nobody had xp64 was cus it wasnt really needed when xp came out... or really until vista came out... 4gigs of ram really is just now becoming a norm for gaming pc's... which is why 64bit is entering the scene... back in the day it wasnt needed and therefore wasnt bought... so as not to be forced to hassle with the 64 vs 32 bit compatibility problems that used to exist.

[[NgW]larz]

lol you can do all the same stuff you can do with vista on xp... seriously... dx10 has been cracked and works on xp... i used to have it... :D... also... most of those windows vista only games... have been cracked to work on xp :D lolz :D

Also the reason nobody had xp64 was cus it wasnt really needed when xp came out... or really until vista came out... 4gigs of ram really is just now becoming a norm for gaming pc's... which is why 64bit is entering the scene... back in the day it wasnt needed and therefore wasnt bought... so as not to be forced to hassle with the 64 vs 32 bit compatibility problems that used to exist.

Why don't you use DX10 on your XP rig anymore?

[xiohexia]

larz;20607']Why don't you use DX10 on your XP rig anymore?

Because now I have the Hexian running Vista Ultimate 64bit with DX10. No need for silly cracked DX10 or XP. :D
-- Crappy Cellphone pics --
http://xiohexia.com/photos/albums/userpics/hexian1.jpg
http://xiohexia.com/photos/albums/userpics/hexian4.jpg

[Froth]

Ahhh!!!!!!!!! Cell phone pics!!!!! In the dark!! Mommy!!!!!!! :wink:

[[NgW]Retribution]

got my ram to work, i just had to manuly set the dimm voltage
down clocking my vid card has kept it from frezzing
and after having this copy of windows for so long, you lose the ability to activate it online, so i just have to avtivate it on the phone

[[NgW]larz]

"The Hexian"

I like it. ;)

[xiohexia]

Retribution;20621']got my ram to work, i just had to manuly set the dimm voltage
down clocking my vid card has kept it from frezzing
and after having this copy of windows for so long, you lose the ability to activate it online, so i just have to avtivate it on the phone


Lol activation.